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Seth explains religious drama
Seth speaks about religious drama
(P 327)
These ideas become the driving themes of these religious dramas of which I have spoken. The actors May “return” time and time again, in different roles. In any given historic religious drama, therefore, the actors may have already appeared on the historic scene in your past, the prophet of today being the traitor of the past drama. These psychic entities are real, however. It is quite true to say that their reality consists not only of the core of their own identity, but also is reinforced by those projected thought and feelings of the earthy audience for whom the drama is enacted. Psychic or psychological identification is of great import here and is indeed at the heart of all such dramas. In one scene, you can say that man identifies with the gods he has himself created. Man does not understand the magnificent quality of his own inventiveness and creative power, however. Then say that gods and men create each other , and you come even closer to the truth; but only if you are very careful in your definitions- for how exactly, do gods and men differ? The attributes of the gods are those inherent within man himself, magnified, brought into powerful activity, Men believe that gods live forever. Men live forever, but having forgotten this they remember only to endow their gods with this characteristics. Obviously, then beyond these earthy historic religious dramas, the seemingly recurring tales of gods and men, there are spiritual realities. Behind the actors in dramas, there are more powerful entities who are quite beyond role-playing. The plays themselves, then, the religions that sweep across the ages-these are merely shadows, though helpful ones. Behind the frame of good and evil is a far deeper spiritual value. All religions therefore, while trying to catch “truth” must to some large degree fear its ever eluding them. The inner self alone, at rest in meditation, can at times glimpse portions of these inner realities that cannot be physically expressed. These values, intuitions or insights are given each to according to his understanding, and so the stories told about them will often vary. (p328) For example, the main character in a religious historical drama may or may not consciously be aware of the ways in which such information is given to him. And yet it may seem to him that he does know, for the nature of a dogma’s origin will be explained in terms that this main character can understand. The historical Jesus knew who he was, but he also knew that he was one of three personalities composing one entity mentioned many times by me, has not in your terms yet appeared, although his existence has been prophesied as the “Second coming” Matthew24). Now these prophecies were given in terms of the current culture at that time, and therefore, while the stage has been set, the distortions are deplorable, for this Christ will not come at the end of your world as the prophecies have been maintaining. He will not come to reward the righteous and send evildoer to eternal doom. He will, however, begin a new religious drama. A certain historical continuity will be maintained. As happened once before, however, he will not be generally known for who is there will be no glorious proclamation to which the whole world will bow. He will return to straighten out Christianity, which will be in shambles at the time of his arrival, and to set up a new system of thought when the world is sorely in need of one. By the time, all religions will be in severe crisis. He will undermine religious organizations- not unite them. His message will be that of the individual in relation to All That Is. He will clearly state methods by which each individual can attain a state of intimate contact with his own entity; the entity to some extent being man’s mediator with All That Is. By 2075 all of this will be already accomplished. You may make a note here that Nostradamus saw dissolution of the Roman Catholic Church as the end of the world. He could not imagine civilization without it, hence many of his later predictions should be read with this in mind. The third personality of Christ will indeed be known as a great psychic; for it is he who will teach humanity to use those inner senses that alone make true spirituality possible. Slayers and victims will change roles as reincarnational memories rise to the surface of consciousness. Through the development of these abilities, the sacredness of all life will be intimately recognized and appreciated.
These ideas become the driving themes of these religious dramas of which I have spoken. The actors May “return” time and time again, in different roles. In any given historic religious drama, therefore, the actors may have already appeared on the historic scene in your past, the prophet of today being the traitor of the past drama. These psychic entities are real, however. It is quite true to say that their reality consists not only of the core of their own identity, but also is reinforced by those projected thought and feelings of the earthy audience for whom the drama is enacted. Psychic or psychological identification is of great import here and is indeed at the heart of all such dramas. In one scene, you can say that man identifies with the gods he has himself created. Man does not understand the magnificent quality of his own inventiveness and creative power, however. Then say that gods and men create each other , and you come even closer to the truth; but only if you are very careful in your definitions- for how exactly, do gods and men differ? The attributes of the gods are those inherent within man himself, magnified, brought into powerful activity, Men believe that gods live forever. Men live forever, but having forgotten this they remember only to endow their gods with this characteristics. Obviously, then beyond these earthy historic religious dramas, the seemingly recurring tales of gods and men, there are spiritual realities. Behind the actors in dramas, there are more powerful entities who are quite beyond role-playing. The plays themselves, then, the religions that sweep across the ages-these are merely shadows, though helpful ones. Behind the frame of good and evil is a far deeper spiritual value. All religions therefore, while trying to catch “truth” must to some large degree fear its ever eluding them. The inner self alone, at rest in meditation, can at times glimpse portions of these inner realities that cannot be physically expressed. These values, intuitions or insights are given each to according to his understanding, and so the stories told about them will often vary. (p328) For example, the main character in a religious historical drama may or may not consciously be aware of the ways in which such information is given to him. And yet it may seem to him that he does know, for the nature of a dogma’s origin will be explained in terms that this main character can understand. The historical Jesus knew who he was, but he also knew that he was one of three personalities composing one entity mentioned many times by me, has not in your terms yet appeared, although his existence has been prophesied as the “Second coming” Matthew24). Now these prophecies were given in terms of the current culture at that time, and therefore, while the stage has been set, the distortions are deplorable, for this Christ will not come at the end of your world as the prophecies have been maintaining. He will not come to reward the righteous and send evildoer to eternal doom. He will, however, begin a new religious drama. A certain historical continuity will be maintained. As happened once before, however, he will not be generally known for who is there will be no glorious proclamation to which the whole world will bow. He will return to straighten out Christianity, which will be in shambles at the time of his arrival, and to set up a new system of thought when the world is sorely in need of one. By the time, all religions will be in severe crisis. He will undermine religious organizations- not unite them. His message will be that of the individual in relation to All That Is. He will clearly state methods by which each individual can attain a state of intimate contact with his own entity; the entity to some extent being man’s mediator with All That Is. By 2075 all of this will be already accomplished. You may make a note here that Nostradamus saw dissolution of the Roman Catholic Church as the end of the world. He could not imagine civilization without it, hence many of his later predictions should be read with this in mind. The third personality of Christ will indeed be known as a great psychic; for it is he who will teach humanity to use those inner senses that alone make true spirituality possible. Slayers and victims will change roles as reincarnational memories rise to the surface of consciousness. Through the development of these abilities, the sacredness of all life will be intimately recognized and appreciated.
Seth speaks how Jesus was saved last time
Seth Speaks (page366)
Christ, the historical Christ was not crucified.. You will have to give me time here. He had no intention of dying in that manner; but others felt that to fulfill the prophecies in all ways, a crucifixion was necessity. Christ did not take part in it. There was a conspiracy in which Judas played a role, an attempt to make a martyr out of Christ. The man chosen was drugged- hence the necessity of helping him carry the cross( luke23) and he was told that he was the Christ. He believed that he was. He was one of those deluded, but he also himself believed that he, not historical Christ, was fulfilling the prophecies. Mary came because she was full of sorrow for the man who believed he was her son. Out of compassion she was present. The group responsible wanted it to appear that one particular portion of the Jews had crucified Christ, and never dreamed that the whole Jewish people would be “blamed” This is difficult to explain, and even for me to unravel…The tomb was empty because group carted the body away. Mary Magdalene did see Christ, however, immediately after(see Matthew 28)Christ was a great psychic. He caused the wounds to appear then upon his own body, and appeared both physically and in out of body state to his followers. He tried, however, to explain what had happened, and his position, but those who were not in on the conspiracy would not understand misread his statements. Peter three times denied the Lord(Matthew 26) saying he did not know him because he recognized that that person was not Christ. The plea, Peter why thou forsaken me?” came from the man who believed was Christ- drugged version. Judas pointed out that man He knew of the conspiracy, and feared that the real Christ would be captured. Therefore he handed over to the authorities a man known to be self-styled messiah- to save, not destroy, the life of the historical Christ. Symbolically, however, the crucifixion idea itself embodied deep dilemmas and meaning of the human psyche, and so the Crucifixion per se became a far greater reality than the actual physical events that occurred at the time. Only the deluded are in danger of, or capable of such self-sacrifice, you see, or find it necessary. Only those still bound up in ideas of crime and punishment would be attracted to that kind of religious drama, and find within it deep echoes of their own subjective feelings. Christ knew however, clairvoyantly, that these events in one way or another would occur, and the probable dramas that could result. The man involved could not be swerved from his subjective decision. He would be sacrificed to make old Jewish prophecies come true and he could not be dissuaded. In the last supper when Christ said,” This is my body, and this is my blood,” He meant to show that the spirit was independent of his body, and also in his own way to hint that he should no longer be identified with his body. For he knew the dead body would not be his own. This was all misunderstood. Christ then changed his mode of behavior appearing quite often in out of body states to his followers( John28, Matthew 28, Luke 24)before he had not done this to that degree. He tried to tell them however that he was not dead; and they chose to take him symbolically. His physical presence was no longer necessary, and was even an embarrassment under the circumstances. He simply willed himself out of it. He knew that without the wound, they would not believe he was himself, because they were so convinced that he died with those wounds.(john20) They were to be method of identification, to be dispensed with when he explained the true circumstances. He ate to prove that he was still alive, for example(john21,luke 24,etc) they took this simply to mean that the spirit could partake of foods. They wanted to believe that he had been crucified and arisen.
Christ, the historical Christ was not crucified.. You will have to give me time here. He had no intention of dying in that manner; but others felt that to fulfill the prophecies in all ways, a crucifixion was necessity. Christ did not take part in it. There was a conspiracy in which Judas played a role, an attempt to make a martyr out of Christ. The man chosen was drugged- hence the necessity of helping him carry the cross( luke23) and he was told that he was the Christ. He believed that he was. He was one of those deluded, but he also himself believed that he, not historical Christ, was fulfilling the prophecies. Mary came because she was full of sorrow for the man who believed he was her son. Out of compassion she was present. The group responsible wanted it to appear that one particular portion of the Jews had crucified Christ, and never dreamed that the whole Jewish people would be “blamed” This is difficult to explain, and even for me to unravel…The tomb was empty because group carted the body away. Mary Magdalene did see Christ, however, immediately after(see Matthew 28)Christ was a great psychic. He caused the wounds to appear then upon his own body, and appeared both physically and in out of body state to his followers. He tried, however, to explain what had happened, and his position, but those who were not in on the conspiracy would not understand misread his statements. Peter three times denied the Lord(Matthew 26) saying he did not know him because he recognized that that person was not Christ. The plea, Peter why thou forsaken me?” came from the man who believed was Christ- drugged version. Judas pointed out that man He knew of the conspiracy, and feared that the real Christ would be captured. Therefore he handed over to the authorities a man known to be self-styled messiah- to save, not destroy, the life of the historical Christ. Symbolically, however, the crucifixion idea itself embodied deep dilemmas and meaning of the human psyche, and so the Crucifixion per se became a far greater reality than the actual physical events that occurred at the time. Only the deluded are in danger of, or capable of such self-sacrifice, you see, or find it necessary. Only those still bound up in ideas of crime and punishment would be attracted to that kind of religious drama, and find within it deep echoes of their own subjective feelings. Christ knew however, clairvoyantly, that these events in one way or another would occur, and the probable dramas that could result. The man involved could not be swerved from his subjective decision. He would be sacrificed to make old Jewish prophecies come true and he could not be dissuaded. In the last supper when Christ said,” This is my body, and this is my blood,” He meant to show that the spirit was independent of his body, and also in his own way to hint that he should no longer be identified with his body. For he knew the dead body would not be his own. This was all misunderstood. Christ then changed his mode of behavior appearing quite often in out of body states to his followers( John28, Matthew 28, Luke 24)before he had not done this to that degree. He tried to tell them however that he was not dead; and they chose to take him symbolically. His physical presence was no longer necessary, and was even an embarrassment under the circumstances. He simply willed himself out of it. He knew that without the wound, they would not believe he was himself, because they were so convinced that he died with those wounds.(john20) They were to be method of identification, to be dispensed with when he explained the true circumstances. He ate to prove that he was still alive, for example(john21,luke 24,etc) they took this simply to mean that the spirit could partake of foods. They wanted to believe that he had been crucified and arisen.