Seth Speaks (page366)
Christ, the historical Christ was not crucified.. You will have to give me time here. He had no intention of dying in that manner; but others felt that to fulfill the prophecies in all ways, a crucifixion was necessity. Christ did not take part in it. There was a conspiracy in which Judas played a role, an attempt to make a martyr out of Christ. The man chosen was drugged- hence the necessity of helping him carry the cross( luke23) and he was told that he was the Christ. He believed that he was. He was one of those deluded, but he also himself believed that he, not historical Christ, was fulfilling the prophecies. Mary came because she was full of sorrow for the man who believed he was her son. Out of compassion she was present. The group responsible wanted it to appear that one particular portion of the Jews had crucified Christ, and never dreamed that the whole Jewish people would be “blamed” This is difficult to explain, and even for me to unravel…The tomb was empty because group carted the body away. Mary Magdalene did see Christ, however, immediately after(see Matthew 28)Christ was a great psychic. He caused the wounds to appear then upon his own body, and appeared both physically and in out of body state to his followers. He tried, however, to explain what had happened, and his position, but those who were not in on the conspiracy would not understand misread his statements. Peter three times denied the Lord(Matthew 26) saying he did not know him because he recognized that that person was not Christ. The plea, Peter why thou forsaken me?” came from the man who believed was Christ- drugged version. Judas pointed out that man He knew of the conspiracy, and feared that the real Christ would be captured. Therefore he handed over to the authorities a man known to be self-styled messiah- to save, not destroy, the life of the historical Christ. Symbolically, however, the crucifixion idea itself embodied deep dilemmas and meaning of the human psyche, and so the Crucifixion per se became a far greater reality than the actual physical events that occurred at the time. Only the deluded are in danger of, or capable of such self-sacrifice, you see, or find it necessary. Only those still bound up in ideas of crime and punishment would be attracted to that kind of religious drama, and find within it deep echoes of their own subjective feelings. Christ knew however, clairvoyantly, that these events in one way or another would occur, and the probable dramas that could result. The man involved could not be swerved from his subjective decision. He would be sacrificed to make old Jewish prophecies come true and he could not be dissuaded. In the last supper when Christ said,” This is my body, and this is my blood,” He meant to show that the spirit was independent of his body, and also in his own way to hint that he should no longer be identified with his body. For he knew the dead body would not be his own. This was all misunderstood. Christ then changed his mode of behavior appearing quite often in out of body states to his followers( John28, Matthew 28, Luke 24)before he had not done this to that degree. He tried to tell them however that he was not dead; and they chose to take him symbolically. His physical presence was no longer necessary, and was even an embarrassment under the circumstances. He simply willed himself out of it. He knew that without the wound, they would not believe he was himself, because they were so convinced that he died with those wounds.(john20) They were to be method of identification, to be dispensed with when he explained the true circumstances. He ate to prove that he was still alive, for example(john21,luke 24,etc) they took this simply to mean that the spirit could partake of foods. They wanted to believe that he had been crucified and arisen.
Christ, the historical Christ was not crucified.. You will have to give me time here. He had no intention of dying in that manner; but others felt that to fulfill the prophecies in all ways, a crucifixion was necessity. Christ did not take part in it. There was a conspiracy in which Judas played a role, an attempt to make a martyr out of Christ. The man chosen was drugged- hence the necessity of helping him carry the cross( luke23) and he was told that he was the Christ. He believed that he was. He was one of those deluded, but he also himself believed that he, not historical Christ, was fulfilling the prophecies. Mary came because she was full of sorrow for the man who believed he was her son. Out of compassion she was present. The group responsible wanted it to appear that one particular portion of the Jews had crucified Christ, and never dreamed that the whole Jewish people would be “blamed” This is difficult to explain, and even for me to unravel…The tomb was empty because group carted the body away. Mary Magdalene did see Christ, however, immediately after(see Matthew 28)Christ was a great psychic. He caused the wounds to appear then upon his own body, and appeared both physically and in out of body state to his followers. He tried, however, to explain what had happened, and his position, but those who were not in on the conspiracy would not understand misread his statements. Peter three times denied the Lord(Matthew 26) saying he did not know him because he recognized that that person was not Christ. The plea, Peter why thou forsaken me?” came from the man who believed was Christ- drugged version. Judas pointed out that man He knew of the conspiracy, and feared that the real Christ would be captured. Therefore he handed over to the authorities a man known to be self-styled messiah- to save, not destroy, the life of the historical Christ. Symbolically, however, the crucifixion idea itself embodied deep dilemmas and meaning of the human psyche, and so the Crucifixion per se became a far greater reality than the actual physical events that occurred at the time. Only the deluded are in danger of, or capable of such self-sacrifice, you see, or find it necessary. Only those still bound up in ideas of crime and punishment would be attracted to that kind of religious drama, and find within it deep echoes of their own subjective feelings. Christ knew however, clairvoyantly, that these events in one way or another would occur, and the probable dramas that could result. The man involved could not be swerved from his subjective decision. He would be sacrificed to make old Jewish prophecies come true and he could not be dissuaded. In the last supper when Christ said,” This is my body, and this is my blood,” He meant to show that the spirit was independent of his body, and also in his own way to hint that he should no longer be identified with his body. For he knew the dead body would not be his own. This was all misunderstood. Christ then changed his mode of behavior appearing quite often in out of body states to his followers( John28, Matthew 28, Luke 24)before he had not done this to that degree. He tried to tell them however that he was not dead; and they chose to take him symbolically. His physical presence was no longer necessary, and was even an embarrassment under the circumstances. He simply willed himself out of it. He knew that without the wound, they would not believe he was himself, because they were so convinced that he died with those wounds.(john20) They were to be method of identification, to be dispensed with when he explained the true circumstances. He ate to prove that he was still alive, for example(john21,luke 24,etc) they took this simply to mean that the spirit could partake of foods. They wanted to believe that he had been crucified and arisen.
